There are a few myths that keep being recycled in debates online so often that it’s worth me investing the time to prepare their rebuttal here. It gets quite boring dealing with the same pedestrian mistakes over and over again, so the address for this page is short and easy to remember.

ChurchAndState.com.au/myths

You can just pop it into the conversation quicker than the time it usually takes to educate someone who’s regurgitated something they picked up elsewhere simply because it was convenient to their worldview, without questioning it further.

There’s no need for this list or its responses to be final. If you have additions or requests for additions, please feel free to add them in the comments below, and use this page as a resource for future conversations. The list could be endless of course, so only the best and most common will make it. If you like someone else’s suggestion/addition/request, vote it up to get attention sooner.

It’s not 20 yet, but it’s still a young collection. The first myth is open. Just click on the ones below it to read / watch the other responses.

1. The divorce rate is 50%

“Actually, there are fewer divorces today than there were a decade ago — even though there are far more marriages now than then.

Also, the divorce rate has been declining for more than 30 years, and currently sits at an all-time low; and 30 percent down on the rate of a decade ago. Marriages that do end in divorce are lasting 12 years, which is two years longer than they did 20 years ago.

Therefore, comparing the divorce rate of today against the marriage rate when these weddings took place 12 years ago, we have divorces equating to just 36 percent of those marriages.

Based on this analysis, it is not the case that half of all marriages end in divorce, but by comparing national marriage and divorce rates, it can be estimated that twice as many marriages will succeed as will fail.”

SOURCE: http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/mark-mccrindle/is-australia-really-the-l_b_9129164.html

“According to the Census Bureau, 72% of those who have ever been married, are still married to their first spouse! And the 28% who aren’t, includes everyone who was married for many years, until a spouse died. No-one knows what the average first-marriage divorce rate actually is, but based on the rate of widowhood and other factors, we can estimate it is probably closer to 20-25%.

Another myth that is begging to be debunked is the notion that “Barna found that the rate of divorce is the same in the church.” Actually the Barna Group found no such thing and George Barna himself told me he would love to correct this misunderstanding. Because he wasn’t studying people “in the church.”

The Barna Group studies were focusing specifically on the divorce rates of those with Christian and non-Christian belief systems and didn’t take worship attendance into account. So I partnered with the Barna Group and we re-ran the numbers: and if the person was in church last week, their divorce rate dropped by 27%. And that is one of the smallest drops found in recent studies: overall, regular church attendance lowers the divorce rate anywhere from 25-50%, depending on the study you look at.”

SOURCE: http://shaunti.com/2014/05/busting-cultural-myths-marriage-divorce/

2. Kids just need love and safety, food and shelter - any two parents will do.
“Most scholars now agree that children raised by two biological parents in a stable marriage do better than children in other family forms across a wide range of outcomes.”
https://eric.ed.gov/?id=EJ1079423
 
“Much empirical work in monogamous societies indicates that higher degrees of relatedness among household members are associated with lower rates of abuse, neglect and homicide. Living in the same household with genetically unrelated adults is the single biggest risk factor for abuse, neglect and homicide of children. Stepmothers are 2.4 times more likely to kill their stepchildren than birthmothers, and children living with an unrelated parent are between 15 and 77 times more likely to die ‘accidentally’.”
http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/367/1589/657
 
“Because of the stability, biological connection and male/female influence that marriage provides, children raised by their married mother and father are drastically less likely to live in poverty, become teen parents, have problems with the law, use drugs, be physically or sexually abused, and drop out of school. Research reveals that the place where kids are most likely to be “safe and loved” is in the home of their married mother and father.”
http://thembeforeus.com/children-have-needs/
3. The sky hasn't fall in where marriage has already been redefined.

Who has argued that “the sky will fall”? No one. Being obtuse and sarcastic is just silly and as patronising as Hillary calling dissenters “a basket of deplorables”.

If we’re meant to “get with the times” because “the rest of the world is doing it”, let’s at least be consistent enough to ask what happens in the rest of the world.

Before the law changed in the United Kingdom Jewish schools weren’t failing their education department inspections because they were refusing to teach children that their gender was fluid, radical LGBT sex education programs.
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• In England, current “Conservative” Prime Minister, Theresa May, has revealed proposals to abolish the need for any medical consultation before gender reassignment. The proposals were designed to: ‘build on the progress’ of same-sex marriage.
• Equalities minister Justine Greening, has insisted that churches must be made to: ‘Keep up with modern attitudes’. Likewise, the Speaker of the House of Commons, a position supposedly defined by its political neutrality, had this to say: I feel we’ll only have proper equal marriage when you can bloody well get married in a church if you want to do so, without having to fight the church for the equality that should be your right’.
• Aspiring foster parents who identify as religious, face interrogation. Practicing Jews, Muslims, Christians and Sikhs, who want to stay true to their religious teachings, can no longer adopt children.
• It’s now a crime to politely decline to decorate a cake with a political message in support of same-sex marriage. The courts maintained that business owners must be compelled to promote the LGBT cause, irrespective of personal convictions.
• ‘Sex education’ has been transformed and disfigured. TV programmes, aimed at children as young as three, promote ‘gender fluidity’, as an enabler of thoughtfulness and individuality.
• Gov ministers have denied worried parents the right to withdraw their children from primary school classes. Meanwhile, ‘outside educators’ teach children about sex positions, ‘satisfying’ pornography consumption and how to masturbate. Concerns regarding STI’s and Promiscuity, are derided as ‘old-fashioned’.
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In Canada, before the law changed, parents had the right to take their children out of radical LGBTIQ sex education programs, and now parents like Steve Tourloukis in Ontario, Canada, has lost a supreme court case denying him his parental rights.
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• Canada’s most populous province, Ontario, just passed a law (Bill 89) that could allow the government to remove kids from their home if their parents oppose the new transgender ideology. After Bill 89, social workers attempting to assess a child’s situation must now consider the specifics of the Ontario Human Rights Code, including “[a] child’s or young person’s race, ancestry, place of origin, color, ethnic origin, citizenship, family diversity, disability, creed, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, and gender expression.”
• Bill 77 in 2015 prohibited particular forms of therapy for minors who struggle with gender dysphoria or other aspects of their sexuality, against the advice of numerous psychiatrists and counsellors.
• Bill 28, which passed into law in December 2016, removed the terms “mother” and “father” from Ontario law, and permits “pre-conception agreements” allowing four unrelated and unmarried people to become parents.
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Loss of liberty, freedom of conscience: compulsion to provide services or goods by the government against personal beliefs.
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A few months after Ireland redefined marriage, they passed a new law allowing people to also deny reality on their birth certificates and change their gender.
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4. Church and state should be separated

…in North Korea: yes. In Western democratic, pluralistic and free countries: no!

5. Christians can't judge.

Seriously one of the worst pieces of Biblical interpretation ever – but so common.

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